Okay, this question has a couple
different parts and i want to go
ahead and say thanks for any and
all help!
short version is: should i get a
ring at zales/gordon's, do
they back up what they sell pretty
good? do they go out of business
often?
should i get yellow gold or white?
white has to be dipped every year
and yellow doesnt. if i get white
it's going to be an extra $75
warranty to have free rhodium dips.
is it worth it since my closest
zales and gordons is more than an
hour away?
below is a lot more details so you
can better understand my questions
and why i have them.
i got engaged may 2009. i have a
white gold band with a solitaire.
we started looking for bands for
the ceremony (august 2010) and i
decided i like the ones with
diamonds in them.
to get a band that looks good with
my diamond and on my finger (they
are long but chubby) i would need a
1/2 carat total weight band, either
pave or channel. it's
basically going to be just as cheap
to get a pretty bridal set as it is
a 1/2 carat band. i tried some on
and have also looked online and am
willing to sacrifice the 1/2 carat
band to get a prettier bridal set
with a little less carat weight.
the set i like looks pretty big on
the hand but up close it's
several smaller diamonds grouped
together. i'll post a link of
the one im considering, below.
my main issue is, i had no clue
that white gold was actually just a
faint yellow gold dipped in
rhodium. i started doing some
research and heard people talking
about getting their rings
"dipped" and then i
started studying my band on my
diamond and sure enough
there's a little faint yellow
showing through. when i asked
several jewelers they said most
people get them dipped once a year
and it's about $35 per ring.
so.. if i get a white gold set from
zales/gordon's they have the
diamond bond which says that if i
break or chip or lose a diamond or
knock the head off the ring, they
will fix or replace it ( i like
that a lot). that's included
with the price. i can also add on
an extra warranty that allows me
free sizing and rhodium dipping for
life and it's $75. my main
question is, should i get the ring
from zales/gordon's and if so,
should i add the $75 warranty? the
only reason i'm thinking about
not adding that on is because there
is only one zales and one
gordon's around me within a 2
hours radius. i have to take the
diamond there every 6 months for
inspection. what happens if i get
the ring at gordons and then they
go out of business? i've
emailed the company to see if i can
take it to any other gordons or a
zales since they own each other. so
far all i got was "we need
more time to answer your q"
also, i prefer white gold but
should i maybe reconsider and train
myself to like yellow gold since i
wont have to worry about having it
dipped every year? my class ring is
yellow and i don't really mind
it, i just seem to prefer white but
maybe that's because it's
the "going thing." i know
most people will say "go with
what you like since you're
wearing it" but im wondering
if anyone out there thinks
it's worth the hassle to have
to get the white one dipped every
year...and keep in mind i have to
drive more than an hour to get it
inspected twice a year and to get
it dipped once a year. and also
keep in mind they could go out of
business since they are in a
rinkydink mall in a small town.
here's the ring in yellow:
http://www.zales.com/product/index.
jsp?productid=4091622&kpc=1
here it is in white:
http://www.zales.com/product/index.
jsp?productid=4091621&kpc=1
if you made it this far, i have one
more question: can you haggle with
jewelry chains like zales, gordons,
and kays? could i ask them
what's the lowest they'd
take if im paying cash (which we
will be)
if i get platinum i would have to
go way lower in carat size.
the deal is, i'm in college
and he just bought a house.
obviously we cant spend a thousand
more dollars on a ring set because
the ring i have now is already
about that much. like i said,
it's about as cheap to get a
set as it is to get a band in the
specifications i want.
the reason i asked about haggling
the price is that the rep at
gordon's said they can give a
10% discount if she asks the
manager. so i assumed if they could
ask and knock off 10% why not 15 or
20% if im paying cash and not
financing.
i found the exact same set with the
same color and clarity on another
site for about half of what
gordon's charges... so now i
hav e to decide if i want to chance
buying it online and pocket the
extra $400 to pay for dipping and
small stone replacement.
i'm just trying to save my
fiance money, he does so much for
me already. i know i sound cheap
but im just trying not to take
advantage of his money for a ring
that is only a symbol. some people
don't even have rings so i
already feel blessed.
I'll answer what I can...
White gold vs Yellow gold
More than anything I think it comes down to your preference,
how do you feel in each colour?
Does one look better on your skin tone?
You're right white gold will require maintenance,
and,
personally,
I'm bothered that white gold isn't really white.
If you want a white metal,
I would look at palladium,
platinum or titanium.
Palladium is platinum's sister,
almost identical (differences:
whiter,
harder,
weighs less)
and is usually priced similar to 18k gold.
Warranty
If you get the white gold ring,
definitely get the warranty.
You will need to have the ring rhodium plated again,
likely every couple years,
maybe even less,
this will be well worth it when you consider one dip can be $40 and you're paying just $75 for a lifetime of dips which would add up to more than $1000.
The Ring
The set you have selected is gorgeous!
It will look great in white or yellow.
Haggling
You can definitely haggle with chain jewellers,
they expect it.
When I was browsing many of them dropped the price without hesitation when I didn't even mutter a word,
was just checking out the ring.
Salespeople tend to hate silence and feel the need to fill the void,
so try this:
ask to see a ring and check it out and ask how much it is,
once you have your answer just quietly look at the ring,
and they'll often offer a price reduction right there.
Chain store rings are so overpriced they can afford to drop the prices for you,
I've seen a number of jewellers actually feel badly for the highway robbery they pull.
Buying Online
I recommend it....if there's a great return policy.
You don't want to be stuck with a ring you don't love when you're already on a budget.
I do believe it is best to buy diamonds in person,
but budgetary concerns can make buying online the best option too.
With buying diamonds though,
note that while the clarity rating may be the same,
one stone could be eye clean (no visible inclusions)
while another could have a conclusion smack dab in the centre for all to see.
I would buy any other stone online,
but would be very cautious with diamonds.
Getting Value for you and yours
I honestly don't feel you get much value at chain stores.
Their diamonds are rarely even half decent and nothing is all that unique or special.
I couldn't buy from them without feeling ripped off.
However,
I understand you're on a budget.
You mentioned before you like white metal,
but you don't like the maintenance of white gold,
I would then seriously consider palladium.
As for the centre stone,
are you insistent on a diamond?
You could go with a high quality CZ (such as an Asha)
for a fraction of the price and get a more beautiful stone.
Asha CZs look exactly like the real thing,
no one will know unless you tell them.
What I would recommend is moissanite,
in my opinion,
it's far more beautiful than a diamond and it has much greater brilliance and fire for greater sparkle.
Based on all you have described I definitely think palladium is the way to go for the metal and you might want to consider more budget-friendly stones than the diamond.
Here's some rings-on-a-budget suggestions if you're open to diamond alternatives in palladium:
*Note you don't have to get the stones near as large as they are pictured,
you can choose a smaller carat size that you could more realistically afford.
http://www.moissaniteco.com/round-moissanite-channel-wedding-set-066ct-2mm-p-10212.html
http://www.moissaniteco.com/35mm-round-moissanite-wedding-set-15ct-p-5222.html
http://www.moissaniteco.com/round-moissanite-channel-set-cathedral-wedding-set-38ct-p-10165.html
http://www.moissaniteco.com/round-moissanite-wedding-set-085ct-p-5327.html
http://www.moissaniteco.com/2mm-round-brilliant-moissanite-wedding-set-066ct-p-5310.html
http://shopping.schubachstore.com/Style-1125-Comfort-Fit-Engagement-Ring-With-Channel-Set-Round-Brilliant-Side-Stones
http://shopping.schubachstore.com/Style-9620-Pave-Set-Diamond-Engagement-Ring_2?sc=193&category=53608
http://www.fromthesky.com/shop/?cat=175
And a diamond alternative in gold too (they could probably make it in palladium if you ask):
$642 (set)-
http://www.moissaniteco.com/020ct-marquise-moissanite-wedding-set-14k-wy-gold-setting-p-1268.html
And this site here offers very affordable palladium settings which you could order and then have an asha,
moissanite or CZ set,
some suggestions:
*Note that you have to play with the settings a bit to get a price.
be sure to select 'setting only'
to get the price without diamonds,
because they price diamonds really high.
http://www.sunjewelry.com/er2423.html
http://www.sunjewelry.com/er2475.html
http://www.sunjewelry.com/er2644.html
If you really want to save a buck,
here's some diamond cluster rings in gold at great savings over chains:
*Note that diamond price per carat point greatly increases in larger stones since they are more rare.
Since cluster rings only include smaller stones,
you should be able to get a great deal.
http://www.vistabella.com/item-details.cfm?ItemID=12058&showimage=3
http://www.myjewelrybox.com/?section=item&itemID=2608
http://www.heavenlytreasures.com/304ac04r.html?cid=CJ&
http://www.zales.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3562239&site-ID=q5QZHUbCIj8-7oDmhgUgw_Ju0d7ADVQcfA
http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/32675/vpid/721-2551/vpcsid/0/rid/130441
http://seaofdiamonds.com/item.asp?invky=5001642&id=shop
http://seaofdiamonds.com/item.asp?invky=3195764&id=shop
http://seaofdiamonds.com/item.asp?invky=4801904&id=shop
Are you open to buying used?
Here's two great sites:
http://diamondbistro.com/
http://www.exboyfriendjewelry.com/
And you can get some amazing deals on Ebay,
new and used.